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Post by BritPete on Feb 13, 2024 13:40:21 GMT
This is MKW with pattern Dream style silencers on it
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Post by Rossco on Feb 13, 2024 14:25:54 GMT
Yep, that's how I understand it also. Just wondering the reasons behind the design change when the engine and Collector didn't really change. Surely not just anesthetics?
Thanks for the photo. How does she run/sound compared to the others? The longer one definitely balances out the look. Probably pushes the gases well clear of the rear tyre also..
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Post by BritPete on Feb 13, 2024 14:47:27 GMT
Yep, that's how I understand it also. Just wondering the reasons behind the design change when the engine and Collector didn't really change. Surely not just anesthetics? Thanks for the photo. How does she run/sound compared to the others? The longer one definitely balances out the look. Probably pushes the gases well clear of the rear tyre also.. Now sold MKW which part funded the purchase of My Royal Enfield To be honest sound wise no noticeable difference to SME which has standard silencers. Both had genuine Honda collectors
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Post by johnfcbn44dx on Feb 13, 2024 15:04:30 GMT
So Collector box - no Honda CB marks so would agree pattern but surprised it had got internal baffles Dream silencers original but need some work My view is collector worth £50 or so - Silencers very little due to dents Sorry Can see the 2032 on the underside of the collector, but not quite in the position I thought normal, slightly to far outboard compared with some others, but the top model marking i can't see either.
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Post by robgt750 on Feb 13, 2024 21:29:05 GMT
Does it matter going for an aftermarket collector box. David Silver sell aftermarket ones which look like the original. Or is it the point of keeping it original as possible?
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Post by johnfcbn44dx on Feb 14, 2024 0:37:37 GMT
Does it matter going for an aftermarket collector box. David Silver sell aftermarket ones which look like the original. Or is it the point of keeping it original as possible? I will tend to use pattern collectors on the 400's, and use original collectors on the 250's, the original collectors do give just a little more torque, (as I've went from pattern to original on a 250NA) The cross over pipes internally extend the tuned length of the exhaust, for part of the flow.
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Post by Rossco on Feb 16, 2024 1:52:30 GMT
Can see the 2032 on the underside of the collector, but not quite in the position I thought normal, slightly to far outboard compared with some others, but the top model marking i can't see either. Shitballs, you're right! I purchased / photographed this stuff at night. Well visibile in the light of day. Thanks bud.
I'm glad. Robgt750 at this stage I'm not what you'd call a collector or a restorer, but whenever possible I like to keep bikes as stock as possible. If I find someone in whose abilities I'm confident, I may even hack my Superdream silencers off the bits of pipe on which they are currently welded <that have been used to fill the void left by the original collector> and repair them with the collared ends of these Dream pipes. Just an idea. 100% going to try the Dream ones first. There's a chance I'll just be happy right out the gate.
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Post by BritPete on Feb 16, 2024 8:50:56 GMT
Can see the 2032 on the underside of the collector, but not quite in the position I thought normal, slightly to far outboard compared with some others, but the top model marking i can't see either. Shitballs, you're right! I purchased / photographed this stuff at night. Well visibile in the light of day. Thanks bud.
I'm glad. Robgt750 at this stage I'm not what you'd call a collector or a restorer, but whenever possible I like to keep bikes as stock as possible. If I find someone in whose abilities I'm confident, I may even hack my Superdream silencers off the bits of pipe on which they are currently welded <that have been used to fill the void left by the original collector> and repair them with the collared ends of these Dream pipes. Just an idea. 100% going to try the Dream ones first. There's a chance I'll just be happy right out the gate. Those markings make the collector worth £100 so you got a good deal - silencers still worthless though
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Post by Rossco on Feb 24, 2024 4:26:30 GMT
would it be possible to get some detailed pictures of your stator please? After some swearing and head-scratching, flywheel is off. An air impact wrench did the trick where my battery model had failed. After obtaining a 20mm 1.5 pitch bolt @50mm, I used a grinder to take the thread off the bottom 3mm or so. For busting the 20mm I used the stop-it-with-a-breaker-bar-jammed-in-the-window method but the metal is soft and now the windows are a bit less than round. Can't recommend.
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Post by buster on Feb 24, 2024 16:51:01 GMT
I was hoping to see that it was the earlier 400t stator but that looks like an early superdream one to me. if I'm right and it is superdream then it definitely looks like your low speed source coil needs a rewind. possibly a good idea to get the insulated wires replaced as well, they have a tendency to go very crusty with age and then cause shorts and coils to burn out.
rex's speedshop or BBBikeshop are the go to places, both have plenty of experience of these stators, BBBikeshop sometimes has a rewound unit on the shelf that can be bought on an exchange basis
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Post by Rossco on Feb 24, 2024 23:58:09 GMT
I was hoping to see that it was the earlier 400t stator but that looks like an early superdream one to me. if I'm right and it is superdream then it definitely looks like your low speed source coil needs a rewind. possibly a good idea to get the insulated wires replaced as well, they have a tendency to go very crusty with age and then cause shorts and coils to burn out. rex's speedshop or BBBikeshop are the go to places, both have plenty of experience of these stators, BBBikeshop sometimes has a rewound unit on the shelf that can be bought on an exchange basis Thanks Buster Agreed.
I also tested the DC output from both source wires on cranking: just over 100v on each. Have read that the Low Speed should be more like 90v. If my assumptions and understanding are correct the coil would likely still run the bike but has cooked the CDI and would do the same with a replacement. Rewind time.
There are a couple of rewinders down here in oz, but I'll be dropping BB an email as well. Has anyone reading this thread installed one of BB's CDIs? From the picture the PCB layout differs a bit from the Eggmatorch/nightgrease ( Ebay , Off-world thread ) and is significantly cheaper.
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Post by Rossco on Apr 3, 2024 5:24:04 GMT
Well, I did finally manage to source a used working CDI that wasn't prohibitively expensive (from the US, a revision 'C') and now she starts and runs.
Also ordered and received schematic, pcb and components, I plan to build new and repot into the shell of my original CDI, leaving the rev. 'C' for emergency/testing.
For now I can get back to
A: riding and enjoying her
B: making her better.
Had the carbs apart recently and the gaskets definitely need doing. Got 2 complete rebuild kits pretty cheaply, but will probably just do the gaskets as everything else looks pretty clean and she runs well despite leaks and seeps and whatnot. Also sourced some insulator boots, and have decided the that boots on the airbox side are probably better on my spare airbox, so the next work will probably be: engine gaskets (definitely in need of this) all the bits above and finally will find a local wizard to balance the carbs. Or does someone on here have a good guide to balancing by ear or using equipment I might be able to get my hands on? It's an art that's always trumped up to wizardry, but anyone can learn anything with enough practise, right?
Once all of that is done I'll turn my attention to adding the collector back into the mix. Hopefully I've found some good pipes by then or else can hack together something useable with the bits I have for the meantime.
It's been more hit-and-miss finding used bits for these over here in Aus than I had expected when I picked her up.
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Post by BritPete on Apr 3, 2024 8:28:44 GMT
I have always balanced the carbs by eye on the butterflies when off the bike never had a problem
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